Our second point of interest concerns radar. Schirmer, under hypnosis, states what he was told by the talkative alien 'Now they are telling me their ships have been knocked out of the air by radar.' Asked by the Dr. Williams how radar could do that, Schirmer replied 'I don't know... there's something... ioniz... it is a long word which I can't pronounce.' 'Ionization?' asked Williams. Replied Schirmer: 'Yes, that's the word.' Imagination or recollection?